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Friday, April 8, 2011

The Last Battle (Reading Material)

various fragments of Tolkien's notes, , published in History of Middle Earth, volume 10, Morgoth's Ring, relating to the "Second Prophecy of Mandos" and the Dagor Dagorath (the Battle of Battles) at the end of Time

from Quenta (Quenta Noldorinwa), 1930
“Then shall the last battle be gathered on the fields of Valinor. In that day Tulkas shall strive with Melko, and on his right shall stand Fionwë {Eonwë} and on his left Túrin Turambar, son of Húrin, Conqueror of Fate, coming from the Halls of Mandos; and it shall be the black sword of Túrin that deals unto Melko his death and final end; and so shall the children of Húrin and all Men be avenged.”

from Annals of Aman, possibly 1958:
“Many other of the ancient stars [Varda] gathered together and set as signs in the heavens of Arda. The greatest of these was Menelmakar, the Swordsman of the Sky. This, it is said, was a sign of Túrin Turambar, who should come into the world, and a foreshowing of the Last Battle that shall be at the end of Days.”

from JRRT's commentery on Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth, (sometime after 1959)
“It is noteworthy that the Elves had no myths or legends dealing with the end of the world. The myth that appears at the end of the Silmarillion {the Second Prophecy of Mandos, which does not appear in the published version of the Silmarillion} is of Númenórean origin; it is clearly made by Men, though Men acquainted with Elvish tradition.”


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from Unfinished Tales
"Manwë will not descend from the Mountain until the Dagor Dagorath, and the coming of the End, when Melkor returns."

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